Outlawz Interview: XXL Magazine 
Oct. 2000 
E.D.I. and partners Napoleon, Kastro and Young Noble are situated in a lounge 
at Burbank, Californias Enterprise Studios. The 2Pac proteges are explaining why 
they've got problems with Detroit's most famous rapper. The slightly pudgy 
E.D.I. sits between the bald-headed Kastro and the svelte Young Noble on a 
U-shaped couch, while the baby-faced Napoleon posts up across the room on a 
stiff-backed chair. But the crew might as well be in a boxing ring the way 
verbal jabs are being thrown around. "You can talk about Christina Aguilera and 
all of them," E.D.I. continues angrily, "but keep Pac's name out of your mouth, 
because that's dangerous to your health." 
See, the Outlawz didn't appreciate Eminem saying that he likes to, "Pop the 
same shit that got 2Pac killed," on "Busa Rhyme," from Missy "Misdemeanor" 
Elliott's 1999 album, Da Real World. And they certainly didn't appreciate 
"Marshall Mathers," the title cut from Eminem's new LP, where he says he's, 
"Leaning out a window with a cocked shotgun/Driving up the block in the car that 
they shot 'Pac in." 
"He says some shit that makes me think he's gay, because every time I hear 
him, he has 'Pac's name in his mouth," Napoleon adds heatedly. "We feel like 
he's on some disrespectful shit, because we don't hear him doing that shit about 
Biggie." 
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"He's just annoying us right now," 
E.D.I. adds, overstating the obvious. He's getting on our nerves." But the 
melanin-deprived rapper isn't the only one who has the Outlawz vexed. In fact, 
there's an entire list of "Pac Biters" that the crew has issues with. "Master P, 
he could've stole a 'Pac rap book from 1984," Kastro fumes. "He could have 
kicked 30 of them raps. His brother C-Murder, he took a song that was not even 
released, remade it on his last album and then dedicated it to 'Pac. He was 
like, 'I'm going to steal your song, but Im going to dedicate it to you.' I 
don't know what they're thinking or what it was called. I dont listen to their 
music." 
"Ja Rule, he dont know who he wants to be," Kastro continues, sounding 
slightly calmer. "Ja Rule will give it up and say ''Pac influenced me', but 
Master P, C-Murder, they act like it's their own style. They'll say that 
C-Murder dont sound like 'Pac in every magazine, and now they've got Krazy, 
another fake 'Pac." 
And the drama continues. 
"We've got a hit list, people that if they dont 
holler at us, there's going to be problems," Napoleon decalres. "Mobb Deep can't 
clear that up. Eminem, we want to hear what he's got to say. A lot of people 
dont know we're listening. When they get on mix tapes and talk shit, our people 
call us." 
Like when Nas said, "Thug Life is mine" on Mobb Deep's "It's Mines," from 
1999's Murda Muzik. Those words, the Outlawz say, erased all the goodwill Nas 
established in 1999 with his shout-out to 'Pac on I Am...'s "We Will Survive." 
"If You give it up and say that 'Pac is your favorite rapper, even Eminem, 
then it's cool," E.D.I. says. "We understand that. Everybody's got an idol. But 
they dont want to say it." 
In an age when any friend of a superstar seems to have a record deal, the 
Outlawz are contractless, despite having been 2Pac's best friends. And despite 
the platinum success of Still I Rise, their 1999 album of tracks they laced with 
'Pac. Today, the Outlawz are suing Death Row and still mourning the losses of 
2Pac and group member Kadafi, both of them murdered. 
For some, the Outlawz are the last link to 2Pac and his legacy. That's why 
their debut album is a do-or-die situation. They have to protect 'Pac's memory 
with a stellar album. They also need to prove that they're worthy of their 
affiliation with 'Pac. Like their mentor, the members of the Outlawz are 
associated with West Coast, even though they hail from the East. Kastro, who is 
'Pac's cousin, grew up in New York with E.D.I. in the late 1970's. Kadafi was 
'Pac's Godbrother. After 2Pac worked with Kastro, E.D.I. and Kadafi in 1992, 
developing them as artists in their own right, Kadafi's mother kept telling 'Pac 
how a kid she knew could rap well and that when he was there, both of his 
parents were murdered in front of him. 
"Pac heard the story of how he came up and it brought him to tears," E.D.I 
recalls. "He was like, 'I've got to meet this guy. He sounds like he's got to be 
with us." 'Pac clicked with the rapper he later named Napoleon and invited him 
to join the group in 1994. Kadafi had also grown up with Fatal, whom he 
introduced to 'Pac and initiated into the crew in 1995. Young Noble, who had 
grown up around the other members in Montclair, New Jersey, joined in 1996. 
Other artists, including Mussolini and Kormaini, have also been associated with 
the Outlawz, although none of them are in the studio as the group works on it's 
new album on this June evening. 
Fatal, who released a 1998 album, In The Line of Fire, seems to be the only 
non-present member who is still affiliated with them. "Nothing really happened 
to Fatal." E.D.I. says. "He's still family. He's doing a little time right now. 
He'd definitely be on our album. We're on his album, on Rap-A-Lot. He chose to 
do his solo thing. He's a grown man and we're not going to stop him. The core of 
the family is still together." 
It's a family that has been recording together for more than five years. Back 
then, E.D.I., Napoleon and Kastro almost signed with Interscope as Dramacydal, 
but the deal got nixed when 2Pac was about to get out of jail in 1995. 2Pac was 
super-loyal to Death Row's Marion "Suge" Knight for bailing him out, and he 
interacted with Death Row more than Interscope once he was freed. But his 
loyalty to the Outlawz never wavered. He featured them on both of his 1996 
albums, All Eyez On Me and The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory, his set as 
Makaveli. 
The Outlawz say that 2Pac intended to sign them to his own future imprint, 
MAKAVELI RECORDS before he was shot and killed in September 1996 in Las Vegas. 
Kadafi witnessed that murder. A passenger in the car behind Suge's that night, 
Kadafi, 19 at the time, was the only witness who told Las Vegas police he could 
identify the shooter. Two months later, he himself was shot in the face at point 
blank range in Irvington, New Jersey. The Outlawz won't discuss the murders, 
except to say how difficult it has been for them to succeed under the 
circumstances. "It's been hard without 'Pac and Kadafi," E.D.I says, "but we're 
going to do it." 
After the tragic death of their leader, the Outlawz found their career in 
limbo. "We were in the mix and we were in the process of signing and we thought 
we were going to be on Death Row," KASTRO asserts. "But when he passed away, 
everything got fucked up. We moved away from California for a minute. As time 
passed, everybody was mourning, but there was just something that brought us to 
Death Row. We saw 'Pac's situation with them. In our eyes, he was on Death Row, 
so we've got to be on Death Row. It wasnt like Death Row was banging on our 
door, even though a lot of labels were. We banged down Death Row's door and they 
were like, 'Come Fuck wit Us'." 
Adds Napoleon: "We were confused. We were like, 'Pac rode for Death Row so we 
want to go back to Death Row and ride', because after 'Pac died and Suge got 
locked up, they were downing Death Row. We wanted to ride for them and bring 
them back, because basiclly that was what 'Pac was doing. But as time went by, 
we wanted to do our own thing. It isn't anything personal against Suge and Suge 
don't have nothing personal with us. We never disrespected him and he never 
disrespected us. But it got to a point where we wanted our own label. How could 
we work with someone who's locked up?" 
At any rate, Rap-A-Lot Records' Lil J was the only label owner who would 
record the Outlawz, placing them on the Geto Boys' 1998 album, Da Good Da Bad 
& Da Ugly. Although it was rumored that Rap-A-Lot had signed the Outlawz, 
they now say they are not on the label, even though they say Death Row and 
Rap-A-Lot almost worked out a deal about a year ago that would have made that 
rumor reality. 
Yukmouth, who put the Outlawz on at Rap-A-Lot, was a good friend of 'Pac and 
wanted to work with the Outlawz on his own music. He included them on "Do Yo 
Thug Thang", a street favorite from his 1998 solo album, Thugged Out: The 
Albulation. "Those muthafuckas are 'Pac," Yuk, who stopped by the Outlawz's 
recording session, says emphatically. "The movement goes on. The Outlawz are the 
hardest shit moving. They're continuing with the 'Pac legacy. NOBLE is one of 
the rawest ones. NAPOLEON has that street, hard shit. E.D.I, he got that 
straight-to-the-point hard shit with style. KASTRO's got that lazy flow. It all 
comes together like a pot of gumbo." 
It's a pot of gumbo that has proven to be worth millions of dollars. 
Interscope's Still I Rise from 2Pac+Outlawz has sold more than 1.3 million 
copies, even though it has been almost four years since 2Pac's death. Also, it 
marked the first time that the Outlawz shared top billing on an album. 
The group members say that Interscope needed to offer fans a new version of 
2Pac music, which is why they were featured prominently on the album. 
"Interscope was putting out these 'Pac albums, and they were running out of 
formats," KASTRO opines. "They were like, 'Fuck it, let's put out this 
'Pac/Outlawz album just to change it up and get us some sales.'" 
Plus, E.D.I says, the group recorded too many songs with 2Pac for them not to 
thrust into the spotlight. In fact, he says, the group has been an integral part 
of each of 2Pac's posthumous releases. "We've been involved with every project 
that's come out since 'Pac passed, from the beginning to the mixing and 
everything," E.D.I says. "[Still I Rise] was another project coming up. Afeni, 
'Pac's mother, made it so that nothing would come out without our hearing it and 
putting our approval on it because we know how 'Pac would want it to sound." 
And, largely on the strength of 'Pac's name, the album has gone platinum. "On 
'The Good Die Young', you hear what he's talking about," says E.D.I. "All of the 
shit that he's talking about is still happening. 'Babies catching murder 
cases/Scared to laugh in the sun'. How many 6-year-olds are shooting other 
6-year-olds? He saw that back in '96. Every time I hear that, it sends chills up 
my back because Im like, 'Where did that come from?'." 
The same could be asked for the May lawsuit the outlawz filed against Death 
Row, Suge Knight and Interscope Records, seeking damages in excess of $1 million 
for allegedly interfering with their career. According to published reports, the 
lawsuit alleges that the group signed with Death Row in March 1997 and delivered 
an album that the imprint refused to release unless the group turned over its 
publishing to Knight. It also alleges that the group's affiliation with Death 
Row ended in May 1999 and that Death Row instructed Interscope Records not to 
promote Still I Rise. "All that lawsuit shit, that aint personal," Young Noble 
says. "It's just business. That happens everyday in the White offices. But they 
dont blow it up like that." 
On June 23rd, the Outlawz were granted an injunction that prohibits Death Row 
from interfering with the Outlawz's ability to contract for or market their 
services, according to Outlawz Recordz CEO, Big G. A Death Row spokesman said 
that the Outlawz are still on the company's roster. 
Adds E.D.I of the lawsuit: "It's just another thing that we've got to get 
over. It's been a long-ass road but aint none of us ready to stop and aint 
nothing going to make us stop. Whatever's in the way, it's just going to he 
there for the moment." 
For the moment, the Outlawz are focusing on their debut album, which they 
promise will be released on Outlaw Recordz by the end of October. Although the 
group would not say who its label will be affiliated with, they did say that 
2Pac will not be featured on the collection. 
"Right now, we cant really ride on his shoulders too tough," Kastro says of 
2Pac. "Im sure people are going to say, 'We want to hear the Outlawz with 'Pac.' 
But We cant put out our album with him on there because we wont be able to 
establish our identity. Thats what we really need." 
Later at the studio, Kastro excitedly emerges from the vocal booth. He's been 
working on an untitled song for the album, and his partners reward him with a 
series of pounds after he delivers a particularly punishing verse. Completed 
songs such as "Blessing" and "Nobody Cares" ring the type of emotion, promise 
and conviction that made 2Pac a hip-hop favorite. The set's tracks, which were 
produced by mostly newcomers like 23 Productions, Femi, Mr.Lee, and Quimmy Quim, 
vary from placid and smooth to aggressive and driving. 
While the Outlawz may have been schooled by 'Pac, their sound owes little to 
his more recent, most popular work. Where 2Pac's most famous beats and flows 
were smooth, radio-friendly and easily digestible, the Outlawz's album is filled 
unbridled intensity, on both the lyrical and production sides. It appears to be 
a strong collection, one that will not be confused with anything 2Pac or his 
estate has put out in the last five years. By the group's count, this album will 
be the sixth that they have recorded, even though it will be their first 
release. 
That's WHY, after recording and touring extensively with 2Pac and being in 
the limelight for several years, the crew remains driven, especially since many 
of today's chart-topping rappers bite their mentor's style. "We havnt gotten 
ours yet," Young Noble says forcefully. "'Pac has been gone and we've been on 
albums that have sold more than 20 million copies and we havn't put out our own 
record yet. We're hungry. We've got a definate stop in the game. 
"The more people that are against us, the more we want to do it," he 
continues. "We havn't put out an album yet, but we're going to take the game 
over. Straight up." 
What's My Outlawz Name? 
E.D.I, named after former Ugandan President Idi 
Amin: "He chose that for me because it fit my physical description, him (Idi 
Amin) being the size he was and me being the size I am. Also, he just a hog and 
if I didnt have that in me, 'Pac wanted it in me. It's not like I have his 
picture on the wall. But I like the fact he was a masher. I did study about him, 
and a lot of the things they said he did, Im not with-- having sex with little 
girls, raping people and cannibalism. There was a lot of wild shit he was into." 
Kastro, named after Cuban President Fidel Castro: 
"I dont give a damn 
about Castro. I never studied him. I've just seen him on TV. He's probably a 
good man, probably a bad man. I know America makes him look evil, but Cuba makes 
him look good. To me, it makes no difference. A lot of people tell me I look 
Cuban." 
Napoleon, named after French Emperor Napoleon Bonaparte: 
"Pac gave me 
that name. Napoleon was a short man, but he's a hard nigga. He dont take no 
shit. 'Pac read a lot, so I figured that when he came up with our names when he 
was in jail, he was the type that felt you and your personality and gave you a 
name that would fit. When I first came to 'Pac, I was a short, wild nigga with 
the temper. I read on Napoleon and I like his ways." 
Young Noble: 
"I've had that name before I got in the group. My alias is 
Marbles, though. 'Pac gave me that name because I used to mess up on the 
microphone when I was spitting. The whole verse would be good, but when I'd get 
to the end, Id start messing up." 
Kadafi, named after Libyan Colonel Muammar al-Qadaafi, according to E.D.I: 
"Kadafi was another name that 'Pac picked. I think that there were little 
physical things in everybody that made 'Pac give them the names. With Kastro, it 
was the goatee. Kadafi, it was the head. Kadafi's hair was real wild and curly. 
We picked these names because they were all enemies of America."                      
Outlawz interview to 
Sonicnet
Contributing 
Editor Richard B. Simon reports: 
OAKLAND, 
Calif. — 
Hip-hop 
groups the Outlawz and Digital Underground helped keep Tupac Shakur's musical 
torch lit at a concert that was part of a weekend conference 
focused on the slain rapper. 
Held at McClymonds High 
School, with a concert held Friday in neighboring Berkeley, was a loosely 
organized party and communal gathering that sought to infuse hip-hop youth 
culture with a political agenda, using Shakur as the central figure. 
"We can't really do what 
'Pac was gonna do, but he told us a lot," Outlawz rapper Napoleon said before 
going onstage at the Berkeley Community Theater. "So we gonna let him come, 
gonna lead off where we left off on, man. [His most important message was] keep 
struggling. Don't never give up." 
As the Outlawz danced and 
shouted out to recorded music provided by a DJ, a swarm of friends and 
volunteers — including members of rapper Ray Luv's posse and Digital Underground 
singer Mystic (born Mandolyn Ludlum) — swarmed the stage behind them. The 
group's wireless mics cast feedback through the muddy sound system. 
Hussein Fatal, Young Noble, 
Idi Amin, Castro and Napoleon traded lines while the DJ switched records, then 
announced a tune from the upcoming third posthumous Tupac album, And Still I 
Rise. The crew belted out the verse "Change my ways/ Show a little mercy on 
judgment day" as the DJ laid out a melodic drum & bass groove. 
The mics cut out and the 
house lights began to rise, then the Outlawz returned while listeners onstage 
threw plastic water bottles at the audience members crowding the front. The 
music stopped, someone yelled, "Stop throwing stuff!" and security cleared the 
stage of extraneous personnel. 
"Somebody like Tupac comes 
along maybe once in anybody's lifetime," Digital Underground rapper Money B. 
said backstage. "His star shines so much ... like Elvis, he's gonna be around 
forever. I think his music's gonna last and last and last, because it was so 
from the heart. He didn't candy-coat much — he spoke what he felt, and I think 
anybody can appreciate that." 
At the conference, tables at 
the high school offered Tupac T-shirts, poetry CDs, political pamphlets on 
issues such as former Black Panther David Hilliard's campaign for Oakland City 
Council, efforts to gain a new trial for Mumia Abu-Jamal and California's 
controversial juvenile crime initiative, which proposes to treat young gang 
members as adults. 
While the late rapper's 
sister, Skeyiwa Shakur, and his mother, former Black Panther Afeni Shakur, had 
been scheduled to address the conference, neither appeared. 
Instead, a group of Black 
Panther Party veterans — including Elmer "Geronimo ji Jaga" Pratt — blended 
several planned workshops ("Set Trippin'," "Transforming Predators Into 
Nation-Builders," "The History of the Black Panther Party," "Re-entry Into 
Society After Incarceration") into a roundtable discussion. 
"This is about trying to 
build a new generation of youth, of politicizing youth," Hilliard said Saturday. 
"You certainly are 
organized, because you have a movement, and that movement is called the hip-hop 
movement," Hilliard said, addressing the standing-room-only crowd. "What you 
lack is any real politicization. This is an attempt at trying to give you an 
expression through politics." 
Pratt, Hilliard and others 
spoke on the 1960s rise of the Black Panthers from an amalgam of rival street 
gangs, the need to squelch gang activity in favor of political activism and the 
need to turn the hip-hop movement into a vehicle for social change. 
Other workshops explored 
"Male and Female Relations," "The Plight of Political Prisoners and Prisoners of 
War," and "Tupac 101," led by Leila Steinberg, Shakur's early manager. A Town 
Hall meeting addressed the juvenile crime initiative, and, earlier in the day, a 
film highlighted Shakur and his music.
Outlawz interview to 
Source Magazine
The Source Oct. 2000 
Blood is thicker than water. But ink is even more powerful, especially green 
ink on legal tender. Money can split a family real quick. When you mix red and 
green with Black folk, a lotta people get painted into a corner. Loyalties get 
tested. The Outlawz are intimately familiar with this dysfunctional rainbow. 
Their familes, friendships and careers have been shaded by it's clashing colors. 
With tomorrow far from promised they approach life with an everyday desperation. 
Maybe that's why their new album is titled Ride Wit' Us or Collide Wit' Us.
The Outlawz have known eachother since childhood. Their parents were invloved 
in the Black Power movement together. This activist mentality was passed down 
through genes and dead homiez. It drives their music. "I think that all our 
music is political, man," 22-year-old Napoleon says. "We just do it with a 
ruggedness, so that the rugged street niggas gonna listen to it. That's the way 
Pac gave it to us." 
Kastro, 23, is Tupac Shakur's first cousin. Pac's moms, Black Panther alumnus 
Afeni Shakur, is his aunt. E.D.I's father was a close friend of Kastro's mother. 
The fourth Outlaw, Young Noble, 22, has been a friend of the others since their 
days in New Jersey. Napoleon's little brother, Kamillon, 19, is an Outlawz 
label-mate. The group's manager, G, is E.D.I's uncle. You get the picture. A 
family affair. 
Sitting in the lounge of North Hollywood's Enterprise Recording Studio, 
sporting a red shirt and caramel baldie, Napoleon reflects on the significance 
of being a family full of Outlawz: "It helps the group because we're like 
brothers, where we can just be honest," Napoleon says. "If we fuck up, we can go 
to one another like, 'Yo, how this verse sound?' Everything we do is honest. We 
just got that relationship where we can keep it real with eachother, man. You 
can never go wrong when ya got some real brothers around you that's gon' pull ya 
coat when ya out of line, gon' tell you when something's corny." 
E.D.I. (Malcolm Greenidge), 26, picks up the thought and adds his baritone to 
the conversation: "I feel like, us being a family, us being as tight as we are, 
has kept us together through a lotta shit that would've broke up another group. 
If we weren't this tight, niggas would've been like, 'Fuck it, I'm going solo. I 
can get more money without you muthafuckas.' That's how other niggas roll." 
The Outlawz have stayed true despite monumental tests of family loyalty. On 
September 7, 1996, following a Mike Tyson fight in Las Vegas, they were in the 
limousine caravan riding behind Tupac when he was killed. Pac had reached back 
and brought along some of his oldest friends. The Outlawz recorded with him on 
the Me Against The World, All Eyez On Me, Supercop soundtrack and Makaveli, 
among many other projects. It wasn't strictly business. 
Napoleon (Mutah Wasin Shabazz Beale), leaning forward on the couch, blurts a 
mixture of pride and hurt: "When we rolled with Pac, he didn't look at it like 
it was a group, he looked at it as family. He was like a father to us--and a 
brother and a mother at the same time. He was putting us on game. Pac would say, 
'This is what we gon' do man. We gon' get somebody out the crew to become a 
lawyer. When we get kids, we gon' put money away for college.' Our relationship 
with him was way bigger than the rap game. He talked to us about investments, 
how you keep your family straight." 
A month after Tupac's murder, Kadafi, his long-time friend ("godbrother") and 
an Outlawz member was accidentally shot--by Napoleon's cousin. "When Kadafi got 
murdered, it was by my cousin. They was both fucked up. What I hear is that my 
cousin had some words with Kadafi while he was playing with a gun. The gun 
clicked off. To me, it's an accident; some people will say it was murder. I'm 
going with my cousins's theory. I flew to New Jersey, talked to my cousin and 
made him turn himself in. It hurt me because that's my family. I love the shit 
out of my cousin. I love the shit out of Kadafi. He brought me into this rap 
shit." 
Napoleon's emotion-filled voice crackles in the suddenly shrinking lounge, 
then fades into silence. E.D.I looks at his friend then steps into the awkward 
space. "Napoleon's cousin accidentally murdered my cousin," he says, "He wasn't 
my blood cousin, but I grew up with him since the dirty-ass drawers. But he 
didnt' have nothing to do with that shit. Napoleon wasn't even there. He was 
sleeping next to me when the shit happened. So not even for one second did I 
think about, 'Damn, I can't fuck with this nigga'. If it would have been anybody 
else, it would have been an automatic beef; it would have been, like, murder, 
know what I mean? It was like the worst possible situation, a fuckin' 
nightmare... but Napoleon's still my brother." 
The Outlawz circled the wagons and pushed forward. They signed with Death Row 
Records in March 1997. According to Outlawz attorney Steven Lowe, after the 
masters were delivered in January 1998, there was a "discussion" about whether 
the group would sign over publishing to Suge Publishing, Death Row CEO Marion 
"Suge" Knight's company, or retain the publishing rights themselves. 
"When my clients refused to sign over their publishing, they became personas 
non gratis," Lowe says via phone from his Los Angeles office. "They were asked 
to leave the house Death Row had been renting for them. [In court documents, 
Death Row claims that the Outlawz were evicted because of numerous neighbor 
complaints and because members of the group were engaged in the selling of 
marijuana--calims that the collective vigorously deny.] Death Row initially 
refused to release the album, and when Still I Rise finally was released in 
December 1999, Death Row engaged in practices designed to undermine the success 
of the project, including refusing to promote the album and refusing to allow 
the Outlawz to conduct interviews to promote it themselves." 
This past April, Lowe filed a $5 million federal lawsuit on behalf of the 
Outlawz, claiming unfair business practices and intentional interference with 
prospective economic advantage. On June 23, the group was granted a preliminary 
injunction prohibiting Death Row from interfering with their professional 
advancement. 
Despite the legal wranglings, the Outlawz insist they have no problem with 
Death Row. "Ain't no beef," E.D.I says emphatically. "No beef with nobody. We 
handled our business face-to-face. We went to see them, sat down and talked with 
them. Strictly business; nothin' personal. You're not gonna hear no records with 
us dissing Death Row, and you're not gonna hear their artists dissing us. 
Strictly business." 
The mythology of the gangsta rapper upsets reality in the first round every 
year. The real human beings never even get off the bench. There are Similac 
receipts, child support case numbers and light bills with 5pm deadlines inside 
that red or blue rag. The lumpy snot of missing fathers. We unfold its tight 
creases and find someone we can feel. Someone pressed by the weight of judgement 
in the eyes of those who love him. Someone looking for someone to show him how 
to be a man, to be a father. Nearly all the Outlawz, including Tupac, speak 
often of this void in their lives.
 
 
"I ain't have my pops," begins Noble. "My mom was there, but the first 16 
years of my life, she was on drugs, know what I mean? So she wasn't really 
there. I loved my mom to death, but I basicly raised myself. That is the 
influence on my music." 
Maybe it's something about late night that allows young Black men to speak 
this way. Self-described real niggas getting some real nigga shit off their 
chests. They talk into the early morning, clearing a trail through concrete 
childhoods. A path, not to justify ill behavior, but to understand it. 
"I had my mother and father in the beginning," Napoleon slowly adds in the 
New York accent that surfaces when difficult subject matter comes up. "A tragedy 
happened when I was 3 or 4. They got murdered, know what I mean? The thing is, I 
didn't really trip. I grew up with my grandmother and she took me through that 
shit so raw." 
All these Black confessions, ghetto Hail Mary's, are not meant to elicit 
pity. They are simply part of the process of creating bonds that can survive 
spilled blood and green ink on legal tender. This is how loyalty goes from 
slogan to way of life. And this is how one creates real family. 
"I didn't look at it like I lost nobody," Napoleon continues. "The only thing 
that fucked me up is I got a lot of punk-ass uncles. Never been there for me 
like a father. I never had a father figure until I met 'PAC.